The campus press has weighed in on the matter with unprecedented levels ofsupport for ASM and a stamp of reserved, but otherwise approval forthe proposed ASM Constitution. While a band of primarily far-left student organizations/”allies” are working to defeat the document (c’mon, why the charade over who comprises the Vote No group? A rough estimate of 98.75% registered student organizations have taken no formal position) writers from the left, center, and right all back a “Yes” Vote.
Over the past three days of print…
Links in favor: Badger Herald editorial board:
Students should not be impressed by abstract, unfounded accusations of corruption or unitary executive authority. It is quietly hilarious to watch Vote No Coalition — a scrappy assortment of socialist and antiwar organizations — make accusations of ASM identical to those leveled at George W. Bush until very recently. Someone should tell these individuals that not every campus intiative is a personal affront to their values and politics
Daily Cardinal editorial board:
Meanwhile, there is a small—albeit obnoxious—dissent to the new constitution in the form of the Vote No Coalition. Employing gross hyperbole, manipulative scare tactics and arguments ranging anywhere from half-baked to outright false, this coalition detests the implication of having an executive “monumental power” and the supposed jeopardy of General Student Services Fund appropriations.
Without going into great depth and dignifying the concerns of this coalition, there are copious checks and balances written into the new constitution—something Vote No folks could have bothered to read—and the budgetary process for student organizations is the same, except the budget must pass through both the senate and the executive. If the president whimsically vetoes the budget (the budget can only be vetoed as a whole, not in parts), as the Vote No coalition would suggest, it goes to a conference committee, which has two weeks to fix the budget—lest the initially proposed budget passes regardless. And lastly, if the financial codes were to be changed in the GSSF criteria, groups would be given a three-month notice to comply or challenge the new criteria, nullifying the concern of any “hastily implemented changes.”
Wow, two editorial boards and two slams on the far-left coalition. Ouch. I think the “Vote No” campaign, if they had constructed a counter-Constitution would have had better messaging because now they’re stuck defending the current structure which is in my view an unwinable argument, even if the “people” of the structure are also to blame. The formula is: good people + good structure = success, not good people + current structure = we’re all OK. Most people like Jeff Wright and Brittany Weigand, so it’s tough to argue without them there would be some massive difference in ASM performance.
As a result, the Vote No message has gotten lost, coming out jumbled to the chattering class and resulting in overwhelming media negativity. But before people jump and say “that won’t matter!” I admit, I have no idea who will “win” come Tuesday night. ASM has a history of failure (I know for a fact certain political operatives who have run successful campaigns and remain sympathetic to the Vote Yes organization were never contacted) and a motivated Vote No group stealing the support Katrina Flores could have used last week — whether right or wrong on the ASM issue — could be just the ticket to victory.
As for the DC editorial board, they make an important observation and I hope the ASM leadership passes on word to the SEC for a potential Presidential election:
Our primary concern with the new constitution is that presidential elections could possibly be flooded with candidates, so having a primary or any other measure of sifting down candidates would guarantee the efficacy of the election. It would be a disaster for ASM and the student body if an unqualified candidate won with a small majority over a plethora of other candidates.
Run-off. Take the top 2.
Cox (who makes some great points on the futility of ASM reform without larger considerations), McEwen, Paulson, Smathers, Stevens (becoming one of my favorite DC editorial writers), Dashek.
Links opposed: Szarzynski, Student PD.
I do support the Constitution seeing utility in the strong executive, especially after reading current ASM Chair Brittany Wiegand’s incredibly insightful blog post on the failures of the current system. Her faux-power as the Chair stops ASM action, not to mention the excessive demands on her singular position.
I like what Patrick McEwen and Gerald Cox have said and it’s why I also agreed with Kyle Szarzynski with the need for better PEOPLE – as he’d say, “activists” — in ASM. But as Patrick and Gerald point out: that can be done with or without the Constitution. And most likely because the inability of moderate groups and ASM insiders to slate given their focus on other items (passing the Constitution, City Council elections, even the damn Dane Marathon has some of their attention) it’s likely the far-left will control ASM in the next session if there is a Presidential election.
But little of this concerns me. The entire system of government at UW-Madison is quite cyclical. As Badger Zach noted 4 years ago, the concern over “strong armed” tactics and too much power being focused in the hands of a few has NOTHING to do with a Presidential system:
What I see as a potential danger is more members (both Conservative and Liberal) being elected and appointed to achieve personal and political missions. The real danger is not from the left regaining power, but from the RADICAL left (certain representatives on FUSE, as well as some of the organizers of the supposedly moderate ORGASM slate) AND from the RADICAL RIGHT (such as Tim Schulz and David Lapidus). Bothgroups, through a failure to communicate with or understand either their political oponents or the so-called moderates, pose a threat to undo the progress that has been made over the last semester within ASM
A fear of conservatives … sounds like the real justification behind the far-leftist hoopla today … we’re kidding ourselves if we don’t see it: add “… if a conservative won the ASM Presidency” in front of every “Vote No” argument against a strong executive and you’ll discover what I think is their real concern and helps explain why all of the sudden, in 2009, you start to see such reverance for the current structure – and general interest – in ASM. It’s all politics, baby.
Sometimes I feel the battle taking place on campus over the Constitution has little to do with the students of 2009, but those a decade or years removed, still getting their hands dirty in the battles they never quite finished.
The reality that I see happening: If an inappropriate, poor student representative, or inefficient leader is elected into the Presidency, other groups will as a result, take an interest in the elections and fight for seats in the Senate and Presidency. This will create a more deliberative ASMatmosphere with slates and robust campaign operations, bringing more student interest into the position and ensuring greater transparency as competing interests check the powers of each other. I am concerned about finances, though. I mean, where did the Vote Yes and Vote No groups get their funding for all of the signs today? I know the Vote No group had a small fundraiser at a local co-op. Could a GSSF group pay its members to campaign for someone? Down the line, it could be a slippery-slope…
So what is the status quo? A system of totally removed, highly inefficient resume padders are elected often to get their “hands in the cookie jar” of important campus positions (REAL DEMOCRATIC, right?) where the press and engaged students have little understanding of the institution’s jargon and no specific person to peg fault for the inefficiencies of the system. Look no further than Gestina Sewell circa 2008. Ahh yes, one of my more famous posts. The headline in the Herald – as should go down in campus history – is partially responsible for the Constitution we see today. A crabby CB said:
Second, how the hell can the Chair of our student government “not know” HOW or IF the event was publicized? That’s her job to know and be involved in these matters. And if it’s not, fix the system so that it becomes her damn job!
But wait, we can’t hold her accountable, since the position isn’t like the way pretty much every other major organization on campus works (and many student governments across the country), with a President or a Chair that has powers allowing them to be directly challenged. Instead, we have this half-ass appointed Chair business and it lets Sewellget away with actions such as this. If I critique her, it’s useless, since the power rests with other parts of the organization — some components of which, I’ll never understand, because I’m just a “lay student” who is shut out from ASM by the way the system works. Do you really think the average student understands what “shared governance” is? Hell no. What a mess. What a terrible mess called ASM.
SSFC? GSSF? The tense Council meetings that elect the Chair? Seg Fees? ASM? ATM? MIT? The system right now is so inaccessible to the ordinary student body, something has got to change and I believe a President with actual powers is the first step in making the system work.
To no one’s surprise, the history of student government power disputes are as old as the institutions themselves. This context of the past is often used to justify actions in the present as if the glory days of ASM’s past were the result of this Constitution not being in place. But that’s just not the case. As pretty much agreed by both sides, it was the people involved and that will not change if this Constitution is passed.
Most of the so called “victories” with ASM’s past, for example the bus pass and twenty-four hour library, have nothing to do with bullhorns and hunger strikes but effective student “civil servants” who found important issues and acted upon them. None of this will change, in fact as argued it will be enhanced, by the policy directs issued from the top of the organization.
Under the current ASM structure, the 33-member council votes on and participates in ASM’s campaigns through a variety of grassroots committees. This ensures that ASM can organize students in a manner that accurately reflects the desires of the student body
You have to wonder: why is tuition increasing despite the uh, activist-led efforts in the past byASM? Diversity on campus has not improved much. There’s essentially no “social responsibility” investment campaign from the far-left at UW (while found elsewhere), the living wage vote failed, the Union South vote failed, we don’t have the Iraqi student program CAN brought up last year (I think last year), hell even CAN didn’t even TRY to get a UW resolution through the most recent ASM Council’s to oppose any sort of national or international issue. Not that they failed or were squashed by a “conservative majority” — no, they didn’t even try. Yet somehow now reform efforts are threatening their glorious methods of succeeding in “representing students”?
If the status quo is so great and/or the past was such a wonderful model, you’d see empirical results.
But you don’t.
And for every “victory” achieved through hardball tactics, loud protests, and organized “activists” you’ll find 10,000 examples of failure throughout the years.
One of the best historical contexts necessary to evaluate ASM that went neglected throughout the entire campaign? FUSE and ORGASM from 2004ish (’05?). Two slates of motiviated and progressive (FUSE on the radical side) students who wanted to change ASM.
Result? The status quo.Nothing. This utopia of an engaged an successful ASM doesn’t exist no matter how many times someone pieces together a few scraps of “success” from isolated incidents throughout a 20 year period.
And it certainly isn’t found in some socialist-far left framework. The campus “‘base” is too moderate-progressive (Obama Democrat is not Green Party). But supiciously, these so-called non-resume padders from the far-left who “truly care” about “student issues” have somehow waited until just now, in 2009, bring up endearing imagry of ASM circa-2000.
And to most, “student issues” do not revolve around the index of Counterpunch or a PD meeting. They want quality student services, good academics, and reasonable tuition. More students have gotten angry about football tickets than any social justice dispute on campus and President or not, it won’t change any time soon for better or for worse. And even on these “basic” student issues, ASM has been largely unsuccessful. Recently with the Alcohol Density Plan debate, ASM’s legislative outreach was abysmal.
There has to be a change. Give ASM the structure it needs and yes, the far-left is right: get people who CARE into office. Even if I disagree with whatever a theoretical Chynna Haas Presidency might offer, it’d be the first step in engaging students and bringing about a larger, more deliberative and competitive ASM atmosphere. In a few years when interested parties get their acts together to run for the Presidency and Senate, then we’ll start to see an ASM that “accurately reflects the desires of the student body” standard we so desperately want.
And this comes from no “in the tank” fan of ASM. Believe me.

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Then again, we could always have the trustafarian-led outrage like the NYU and New School Occupations of the last few weeks (I always thought they were protesting Columbia’s admission standards …). Read for some major lulz. The result, btw, of these efforts? Nothin’. NYU met none of their demands, except criticism from fellow professional protestors.
But this was quite the funny little scenario:
At 8pm, December 18th, over 75 students reclaimed the cafeteria at the New School University as an autonomous student center. Students from several Universities commandeered this space. Students of City College, Borough of Manhattan Community College, Hunter College and the CUNY Graduate Center are here participating in this struggle. This is every student’s occupation.
Can you imagine WISPIRG taking over the Rathskeller? Ha!
61 Comments
February 23, 2009 at 7:05 am
beautiful post
February 23, 2009 at 7:06 am
ty
February 23, 2009 at 7:43 am
It’s wonderful to see how many MATC-Madison & non University of Wisconsin students are planning to work for the “Vote No” coalition today. Special interests, what?
February 23, 2009 at 7:55 am
the socialists put themselves in a pickle; if they win they can’t claim a mandate on campus because they have claimed their coalition is “diverse” but if they lose, it’ll be clear why
February 23, 2009 at 7:59 am
Someone read my Constitution Column!
Could someone(s) keep those of us holed up in the library all day abreast of ASM’s get out the Vote? I mentioned in a column how they’ll need to model the GOTV operations of CDems. Anyone from CDems talk to ASM about this? I’m not talking signs on Bascom, I’m talking Bucky the Badger running around, tents with generators on Library Mall, groups targetting specific dorms, clearly defined roles, and HopenChange.
February 23, 2009 at 8:00 am
…and this was a very long post.
February 23, 2009 at 8:10 am
paging Chaynna to the white courtesy phone, its your political future calling and it doesn’t sound happy
At least we can have Kyle bitching about ASM till he graduates and leaving the Middle East alone for a while.
So really its a win-win-win on this
February 23, 2009 at 9:08 am
A long post indeed, but an essential one. I hope that the BH Editorial Board statement isn’t interpreted as a “slam on the far-left.” It’s more fun to read that way, but I see no essential contradiction in being a member of the “far-left” and supporting the new Constitution. More on this Wednesday perhaps.
February 23, 2009 at 9:13 am
I want it to pass but I have a bet with my roommate it will fail. Three major mistakes were made. They did not get endorsements from major liberal groups like LGBT organizations and influential students like Eli Judge. The College Democrats have been largely silent and they let Vote No win far too many ordinary liberals.
There is no campaign manager who dedicated months to this.
Not enough on the ground focus for GOTV.
February 23, 2009 at 9:17 am
Eric, I edited that line to add “coalition” at the end. You’re right and I meant to articulate more inclusively the “Vote No” group, not all members of the far-left.
February 23, 2009 at 9:59 am
Voted. For change. Turnout guesses?
February 23, 2009 at 10:02 am
Pwnage this post is.
February 23, 2009 at 10:28 am
long post CB, long and hard indeedy.
February 23, 2009 at 12:24 pm
LONG AND HARD, UNLIKE ANYTHING BUBBLES POSSESSES
February 23, 2009 at 12:27 pm
10.3 percent.
February 23, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Well, there’s only one thing we can do to kill the time…
Bet on turnout and result.
I say 10.8 percent and a no.
February 23, 2009 at 12:41 pm
12.3% and a yes.
February 23, 2009 at 12:43 pm
7.4, yes.
February 23, 2009 at 1:02 pm
7.4? That’s it? No way. That’s the average for Spring elections.
February 23, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I’m going to go out on a limb a bit and say 18% and a yes…call me blindly optimistic, but I think the students come through (if you can call 18% coming through).
And as far as GOTV efforts, I saw Johnny Tacket putting up vote yes flyers in the SERF this morning.
February 23, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Nobody gives a fuck, Cox.
February 23, 2009 at 2:20 pm
22% YES
February 23, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I’ve seen lots of fliers in classrooms in my neck of campus; about 2/3 no and 1/3 yes.
My prediction: 5.9% turnout and yes, 57-43%.
February 23, 2009 at 2:28 pm
GOTV is not putting up flyers. Why not send an e-mail to Voss or Rydell by tomorrow about how to get students out to vote.
February 23, 2009 at 2:39 pm
13.8% YeS
February 23, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I’m gonna say 11.4% and yes.
Albeit ASM has procrastinated to a high degree in attempting to get voters for the new constitution, I feel that the “Vote No” crew just doesn’t have the money/care to follow through – no offense to any vote-noers out there. The general “vote-no” crew formed early, but didn’t impress enough people to vote their way.
February 23, 2009 at 2:57 pm
the taa REALLY wants me to vote no, i’ve gotten an email and a text today
February 23, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I have been thinking about it for awhile and I think I have come to a conclusion. While the Vote No side wants to paint this new constitution as being more democratic, this is the precise thing they are afraid of. It is obvious that there are no provision in the constitution that will actually threaten GSSF groups, but there is one thing that might.
If SSFC is more representative of the student body, it might tighten up the requirements which will make it more difficult for groups that currently get funding to continue getting funding. Currently, the process could hardly be deemed as democratic since so few students are interested in the process and groups don’t have a problem putting lackeys on the committee.
However, if the new system is more competitive, then it may be harder for the lefties to pack the committee and give themselves giant budgets. More democracy may mean less funding.
February 23, 2009 at 3:21 pm
GOTV in this election is made even easier by the fact that anyone can vote online. Taking a laptop with you over to Gordon Commons or College Library would be a hell of a lot more effective than putting up posters. You don’t even need to get students to go anywhere in order to vote, you can get them to do it right there.
February 23, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I’m with Smathers…I really do see this thing going down pretty harshly, despite the efforts of Jeff Wright et al. and the support of both campus papers. 15%, no.
February 23, 2009 at 4:19 pm
~12.5% and yes
February 23, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Wow,
I was looking back at the State of ASM post and we can see how far ASM has come.
Here is Gallagher’s original list:
1) First order of business, scrap the logo. No more 1980’s socialist artwork (Done)
2) Pass legislation which enforces that all campaigns and business is run through student council. Committees work as the functionary arm of student council (Will be done with the constitution)
3) Cap the budget (Done)
4) Work on redrafting the bylaws to ensure that a referendum which would change ASM structure to a presidential system on the Fall ballot (Not quite the right timeline, but here is the referendum)
5) Scrap the campus relations committee and create a press shop (This is soley JW’s idea, but it is dead on) (Done)
6) Change the attendance policy as student council meetings (I have no idea if this was discussed)
7) Outreach- real outreach (Not even close).
If this passes, ASM will be shooting 5 of 7. Not bad.
February 23, 2009 at 5:18 pm
1 and 5 have been done, but like anything ASM does that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve been done correctly. They definitely are better, but calling them done conveniently makes it seem like everything has been entirely corrected.
Assuming the new constitution does pass, I would still say that 5 of 7 misrepresents how far ASM will still have left to go. But, you do make a valid point that ASM has definitely taken some steps in the right direction.
February 23, 2009 at 5:19 pm
and I’m going to be optimistic: 22.3% with 53% yes.
February 23, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Dude, you need an editor. Way too long.
February 23, 2009 at 6:18 pm
those dudes in the memorial union with the “vote no” thing are really getting on my nerves.
February 23, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I’m gonna guess 16.3% and it passes.
February 23, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Dude, you need to not be a little bitch. Not every post I have will appeal to the lowest common denominator. Think it’s too long? Don’t read!
February 23, 2009 at 6:38 pm
I think turn out will be higher, about 15%, maybe even 20%. I have decided I think ASM did an poor job with their campaign and that the Constitution vote will fail, maybe by a 60-40% margin. One of the commenters above was quite astute in their remark:
It does not help that ASM cannot officially give resources to the Vote Yes effort. Seems doomed from the start.
February 23, 2009 at 6:41 pm
I’ll add that this idea of “a small group of people with power over funding” as a reason to vote no always makes me laugh although it’s a common refrain from random facebook statuses. Sounds a lot like the status quo to me.
So many of these GSSF groups have a cushy set up right now where they have friends elected to the boards with oversight on their funding. Fuck, I’d consider a no Vote if I were them: no more hand in the cookie jar if you don’t control the rules and playing field.
February 23, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I thought ASM did a decent job with this one. If it fails or if turn-out is low, we could probably put it squarely on a lazy, apathetic student body.
Maybe if ASM gave away kegs people would care more.
Speaking of that, at least this vote wasn’t as lowly as last week’s where campaigners were handing out cookies. I still can’t believe that. Losers.
February 23, 2009 at 7:54 pm
ASM should be handing out cookies! In fact, they should have put Woulf in charge of their GOTV campaign. Everyone in ASM I know is talking up the fliers and the online stuff like it’s a deal breaker. Give me a break. Get feet on the ground, and cookies into the hands and mouths of freshmen!
February 23, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Great video on the NYU protest ending. Paaaathetic: http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2009/02/23/raw-footage-from-the-last-moments-of-the-kimmel-occupation/ almost funny. “You may not come in here!”
Check out some of the comments, too.
February 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Has the vote no coalition made any valid and verifiable claims?
February 23, 2009 at 9:19 pm
about?…
February 23, 2009 at 10:50 pm
“anonymous
February 23, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Dude, you need an editor. Way too long.”
This isnt nam, anonymous, there are rules.
This ain’t the daily fuckin cardinal, you future coal-mining bitch.
February 23, 2009 at 10:58 pm
I’m with Eric on this one. I’d say about 13% turnout and ‘No.’ One of my roommates (who actually used to be on ASM) said to me “So I guess everyone says vote no?” When I informed him that both papers and nearly every columnist were voting yes, he pointed out the deluge of emails he received from student groups urging a no vote, simply because they worry their funding will decrease. Simply put, the average student is more likely to check their email than pick up either campus newspaper on a given day, and lots of student orgs are sending mass emails.
I’m really hoping this will pass, for many reasons, but I just don’t see it happening.
Also, great post CB. Shout out to my boy Todd Stevens. He’s primarily a film critic, but still writes a great editorial. (Sound like a familiar path Eric?)
February 23, 2009 at 11:49 pm
“about?…”
About why to vote no
February 24, 2009 at 12:18 am
You should check out the editorials I linked to at the top of my post. It’s essentially a top-down vs bottom-up, current structure vs new structure kind of a debate.
Valid? In the eyes of whom?
Verifiable? Same thing.
Personally, I think it’s important there are active and involved people on ASM, so I find that claim quite valid, but I disagree that our current structure works. It’s an absymal failure for non-special interest groups, and in my eyes most students, hence its irrelevency in student life here.
February 24, 2009 at 1:57 am
“those dudes in the memorial union with the “vote no” thing are really getting on my nerves.”
MAYBE THEY SHOULD KEEP GOING UNTIL BUBBLES’ FUCKING HEAD EXPLODES AND RIDS THE WORLD OF THAT PIECE OF SLOSH SHIT.
February 24, 2009 at 9:39 am
ASM simply cannot out organize groups like WISPIRG and anything Porton, Hass, or Szarzinsky are a part of. We’d better see some feet on the ground today. Campaign manager, anyone?
February 24, 2009 at 10:54 am
http://thecriticalbadger.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/you-can-has-vote-today/#comment-12085
you’re a pretty shitty pundit
February 24, 2009 at 10:57 am
Got that straight. I also said Obama had no chance against Clinton. Good thing I’m not going into politics. Thanks for taking the time to dig through the comments though. That’s awesome.
February 24, 2009 at 11:24 am
I don’t think this is the return of the WI Lounge, but I did post my thoughts on the constitution.
February 24, 2009 at 11:49 am
I have no affiliation with any student organization. I have never had any sort of quarrel with ASM.
All this aside, when I saw the posters on bascom stating “Vote yes for change” I was extremely offended. The disgust I felt after seeing these posters only increased when I checked me e-mail to find I had been told to vote yes simply because a ton of organizations (some of which, obviously after the retraction e-mail, had no which to be associated with the vote yes initiative) supported this change. The e-mail simply came off as a bad case of self-promotion on ASM’s part. I know that there are groups that support this, but I’d like to make my decision based on the changes proposed rather than how many student organizations ASM rounded up for support.
This blatant attempt to gain votes by associating the ‘change’ slogan used in the Obama campaign embodies the lack of ingenuity and progressive thinking present in ASM. Change is needed, no one can argue with that. Placing an enormous amount of power into a single seat (come on, really? veto power?) is exactly what we DON’T need in our already politically segregated society. Making it a coveted seat may increase the competition (which some people believe breeds excellence) between potential candidates, but in the long run it is only going to further impede the flow of ideas between differing political agendas.
This proposed change hinges on who is elected. While it could potentially be the breath of life for this dying organization it may also be the nail in the coffin. The deciding factor will be who’s hands the power falls into.
For that reason, I don’t think I can vote yes.
February 24, 2009 at 11:53 am
“They did not get endorsements from major liberal groups like LGBT organizations and influential students like Eli Judge. The College Democrats have been largely silent and they let Vote No win far too many ordinary liberals.”
Then why did I get an email from the Vote Yes people touting the endorsements of the College Dems? The Vote No coalition, with a couple exceptions (the TAs), represents a small group of left wing activists, not liberals.
If the constitution fails it will not be because the Yes people didn’t notify their potential supporters, it will be because they didn’t harness the same kind of anger and passion that the opposition did to motivate students to vote. To get the average student to vote you need to make it clear to him that he is, for instance, losing money because of the current structure. You should make it clear to him that his vote is taking power away from people who are abusing their positions etc. The email from the College Dems and company says these things but in vague, corny language. Demagoguery would have worked much better.
I admit I know and care very little about ASM. But what I have read has amounted to a battle between some earnest ASM dorks talking about restructuring student government and angry leftists telling people in very powerful language that they’re going to get screwed. When it comes to issues that people know very little about, the latter technique is politically more effective.
That being said, 7.8% turnout. Yes.
February 24, 2009 at 11:55 am
I’m not sure what involvement you’ve had in the past with local elections, but you don’t leverage big time support through e-mails. You roll out major endorsements and work closely with organizations so that you don’t have, as has been documented today, LGBT students believing a vote no on the constitution is equal to a vote no on the marriage amendment. Insanity, yes and preventable with better strategy from ASM? Yes.
February 24, 2009 at 11:57 am
“If the constitution fails it will not be because the Yes people didn’t notify their potential supporters”
What I want to add in that statement is the structural problem with ASM’s campaign: too much “web 2.0″ and high school government style campaigning. Stop chalking and relying on facebook. *If* they lose, it’s about door time. The pool of uninformed students is gosh, 95%+ of the student body. If ASM cannot tap into that, it will be because of man hours.
Jack, what you don’t know is that ASM’s basically running this on the fly. They hardly have more than 10 people working the campaign and are forced to spend precious resources on a neutral “Vote” effort, instead of aiming all of their guns at a persuasion campaign to Vote yes.
February 24, 2009 at 12:12 pm
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February 24, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Now that voting has been going on for over a day, I’m beginning to think that our predictions for turnout are going to be low, very low. There’s an actual buzz about this right now, both of my classes so far today featured a good deal of chatter about the constitution (and from my perception it was fairly evenly split). People are actually talking about this. I’m going to be quite optimistic about turnout and predict 31%, with the “No” votes coming out ahead 53%-47%.
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