November 5, 2008...7:48 am

Last night at UW-Madison was truly something special — this is the new dominant political and social identity on campus

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42 years ago: 

A few days into it, several thousand protesters marched up Bascom Hill. They cheered thunderously when Professor Williams called them “the conscience of the university.” Then President Harrington and Robben W. Fleming, the chancellor, announced that the faculty would reconsider the school’s draft policy.

 

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2008:

University of Wisconsin sophomore Evan Wallach, an intern for the Obama campaign, said the event started as only about a hundred people before multiplying to several thousand.
Wallach called it the “most unbelievable display of enthusiasm and patriotism” he had seen in his entire life. The smaller group sang “Star Spangled Banner” between yells and roars.
“People have taken to the streets with a goddamn American flag chanting ‘Obama,’” Wallach said during the march. “And all that campaign rhetoric will finally be delivered on, and we might actually see a change in this country.”
There appeared to be no one who formally organized the march, as people claimed to have come from surrounding areas, called on by the crowd.
  

 

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(hat tip to Phil)

Some say student activism is dead, others think it’s found in new ways, like this blog or organizing through Facebook. And a few smugly ridicule students for not being “radical” or “conservative” enough in an ineffective attempt to obscure the dwindling numbers that plague their movement. But one thing is certain from last night: give students a reason, something they truly care about, and you will tap deep into their conscience. It was no protest and there is no draft to oppose like Soglin found in the 60s, but the unmistakable result of the spontaneous and joyous march around campus by ordinary, everyday UW students last night is quite clear: in 2008 the “Obama Democrat” is the dominant political and social identity of students at UW-Madison.

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  • Great display of patriotism? More like disgusting display of stupidity. You people really have no clue what you’re getting yourself into, do you?

  • The least you could have done is note the really neat photo comparison, geez guys, tough crowd!

  • Those who voted for Obama will be the most surprised by what he does and doesn’t do.

  • I really liked the matching news clips. What an amazing night for the College Democrats and Obama’s fans!

  • Soberest mob I’ve ever joined.

    Kudos to MPD for knowing to back off.

  • Funny observation about the pictures- the students in the new one are all facing the camera. The students in the old one are facing the building. Make your political metaphors as you will.

    Definitely inspiring hearing about the unorganized march, despite the fact that I disagree with the reasons behind it entirely.

  • well done, CB. Nice post. In the midst of that ‘march’ you could almost feel the surroundings echoing of the 60’s in Madison. What will come of this, I don’t know – but here’s to hoping those out last night will stay inspired, and politically active.

  • Obama has a cult-like following, it is kind of scary the blind optimism some of these people have.

  • It’s called hope, people, and it’s a nice thing to feel again. We all put hours and hours into this campaign. We have worked hard, and for what? For the future. For the opportunity to bring about change. We didn’t win a messiah last night, we won a foot in the door, and we’re all damn proud of it.

  • For the record, I was really impressed with the BH’s coverage today. It beat the shit out of DC’s and even WSJ’s (who estimated there were only 200 people at that march when there were clearly thousands). They even filed a story from Chicago. Mad props

  • yeah. BH killed it. Will CB do comparisons of the papers?

  • This support better continue and not be a one-time thing… the change trend, it better work and stay in style longer than acid washed jeans.

  • I wish I could blindly follow something as ambiguous as hope and change. At least the masses in Russia were told they would get bread.

  • I wish some of these anonymous people had the balls to back up their shit with a name. There’s nothing wrong with liking your president, or being hopeful. McCain talked about change too, he just sucked at it and no one believed him. Campaigning is all about rhetoric so your criticisms of ambiguous hope and change is really stupid, and actually revealing of your inability to understand the campaigning process, which is probably why your party lost. Plus, its not like Republicans are *co(Reagan)ugh* immune to following the leader.

  • Oh please. Like republicans don’t get a hard-on at the mention of Reagan’s name?

    Like him or not, Obama did something extraordinary last night. And what happened in Madison last night was pretty darm spectacular as well.

  • I think what most of us object to is the essential deification of Obama by most of the students on this campus. He’s not Jesus incarnate. He’s a politician who is a great orator and has the ability to inspire people, but in reality has nothing new or special on his policy agenda. Its easy for the democrats to point fingers and say what they would do if they were in control. Its going to be something completely different now that they’re actually in power.

  • I could respect Obama if he had some sort of footing or background to all of the change that he was promoting. The fact is that he doesn’t, and everything he has said so far is just to get elected. If he can provide all of the “change” he has preached, more power to him. I just don’t understand the excitement over something so unproven. I feel it is just too reactionary to people being anti-Bush that they turned to the strongest voice of opposition and are following blindly just because he is not Bush. The thing is, literally any person from Illinois could have won on the democratic ticket and won in 2004, and Obama was pretty much already running for president a year later. His entire political career has been based on rhetoric where he has done a lot of talking but not a lot of doing. If he had experience in tackling issues and actually doing something rather than just saying he voted for this or was against that, then I could respect him a lot more. But right now, he is just talk. Like I said, if he gets the job done, more power to him, but I just don’t see it.

  • “deification”?

    And how would you characterize the GOP’s reverance for Reagan?

  • Matt: Sounds about right.

  • I wish our president elect the best… He has already woken up to a tough world:

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gBf8_BwPWam19Nc4GJZhLxK1ZosQD9491RHG0

    If you haven’t considered it already fellows CB readers… The US government could really use your help overseas the next few years. Seriously consider doing some service for a bit after school if you’re not already. We’re gonna need it, bad.

  • I never comment because I can’t stand political bitching (even if it is your schtick) but I saw that crowd last night, and love him or hate him, I’ve never seen so many students of all demographics so united over something that wasn’t facebook, the octabong, or the closing of Pel’Meni and it was a damn good hopeful feeling. Wouldn’t you rather have people care about their country than waste their time protesting the new facebook layout?

  • true, republicans have had their dark side as well

    however, at least Regan had a record and experience to draw on as governor of one of the most populous states in the country. And Regan’s deification didnt occur until he had been in office for some time. Completely different situations.

  • People were this devoted to Bush once.

  • I don’t think people were ever this devoted to Bush, Gerald. Bush’s support in the polls was sky-high once, sure, but his supporters were not nearly as mobilized and vocal and enthusiastic about Bush as people have been about Obama in this election. Bush’s support was more a patriotic support of America than of the man himself. If people were ever this “devoted” to Bush, it’s a different sense of the word “devoted” entirely.

    I’m speaking up because my article tomorrow (today I guess) deals with this subject. While I’m far from satisfied with it (too cheesy and over-the-top, some really weak logic), I’m genuinely interested in your feedback, if you have any. Shoot me an email if you feel like it.

    CB — really digging the comparison to 1962.

  • P.S. just to clarify the request for feedback was directed at Gerald, not at everyone who read that comment. Not that I’m not open to it anyway.

  • Jack Garigliano

    Meh, never mind, looks like they had to chop some stuff out for length. Not as relevant now. Carry on.

  • You obviously have not read his books, which detail his political philosophy and accomplishments (pre-election).
    And obviously you will not, because pontificating from in front of a laptop is easier than hearing the man out and giving him a fair shot.

  • re: Matt (again)

    also perhaps people are excited that their president and vice president are capable, intelligent, thoughtful individuals… not in 8 years have either position been filled by such.

    obama wasn’t fourth from last in his law school graduation class, and hasn’t put his entire political career off one singular event.

    biden didn’t go to five colleges and has a serious degree (though low in the rankings yes). at least he knows that africa is a continent (not a continuous country) and which countries nafta includes, which apparently palin did not.

    now shut your goddamn mouth or the democratic monolith will bash in your teeth.

  • Jack, thanks for the props. You should post your “full” editorial here.

  • So all it takes to be President is to be a philosopher? I guess all one has to do is write a book about politics and they are fit to lead a country. I gave Obama a fair shot, and I am happy that this country has come far enough to elect a minority to the Presidency. But I don’t understand how we, as a nation, can put someone in charge of the most powerful country in the world because of what he says, and not for what he has done. I don’t care if someone didn’t graduate from high school, if they get the job done, more power to them. There are just too many red flags for me to have voted Obama. Say what you want about Palin, but for as dumb as she apparently is she has executive experience. No law degree in the world can buy what she has. I hope he proves me wrong. Unlike some democrats (*cough* Michelle Obama), I have forever been proud of this country and am blessed to live here. I am pulling for this country to turn around, but I would rather have the reigns in the hands of someone who has been there before than someone who talks the talk but has never walked the walk. This election was just a mandate on Bush and not on the abilities of McCain or Obama to lead and you know it.

  • please, try again, and give some non-fox-news-generated responses.
    waiting.

  • I like how Wyndham Manning and Lauren Woods are huge Obama fans while thier political support network in the Nader crowd isn’t, LOL, somebody is off key. Either their candidates are morons, or the other way around.

  • Gaaaaawhat? Matt, you just went to sensible and clever to talking points. Read newsweek. Watch Fox News, even. Palin didn’t know who was a part of NAFTA (I do) didn’t know Africa was a continent (I do). If Medvedev were to have met your Palin, he would not walk away expressing to his advisors and confidantes “Boy, that woman’s got some executive experience.”

    There is no comparison. And the $150,000 (we’re being told more?) couldn’t buy the intelligence, aptitude, or Harvard Law degree Sen. Obama has.

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/palin_didnt_know_africas_a_con.html

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581

    Now, I’m no Obama psychophant, and I’m with you on your leeriness of electing the most powerful man on the world simply on what appears to be some incredibly promising potential. The philsopher you have referred to has impression millions with his judgement and fortitude. McCain’s campaign cannot say the sane (to wit, picking Palin).

    Stick to the where’s the beef arguement, and stray from the disreputed and shameful Palin’s got what it takes arguement. And let me write this doggoned 15 page paper due tomorrow!

  • What was I doing up in that post? Is it too early? Can one understand what I just wrote?

    “from” clever to talking points
    the 150,000 I refer to is the amount she had been reported to spend on clothes for herself and her family for the campaign.
    impression=impressed

    I think I’ll fall asleep on my laptop for minute or two…

  • “the 150,000 I refer to is the amount she had been reported to spend on clothes for herself and her family for the campaign”

    The MSM “reported” many lies and distortions.

    At least now that the One has ascended, all news will be good news.

    ps. Do you think BHO will finally get to all 57 states now that he’s the Prez?

  • I just want to say that I was absolutely flattened by what that march turned into. I have to say it brought a tear to my eye on what the power of hope really can do to a generation of people. In the last 8 years, I sometimes found it hard to proclaim, “I am a proud citizen of the United States of America”, but that night and for the last few days I can do so.

    I could not help but think as I was walking from the Capitol to Bascom how one man has formed a real movement based solely on hope. He has not done a single thing yet! He has not enacted one policy! My only thoughts that night were, how does a man running on hope inspire a mass like this?! How does he do it?! The only real answer is President Bush. Let us not forget that without President Bush, Obama would NOT be president-elect. I do not believe this election was a referendum on race relations in this country. I believe it was a referendum on the Republican Party and George W. Bush’s horrific last eight years.

    My lasting impression from the march: a hope candidate cannot win unless the people are hopeless.

  • Or, as you acknowledged, maybe the hope candidate won because he’s going to undo (hopefully) everything Bush did so horribly:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/08/AR2008110801856.html?hpid=topnews

    That’s the reason I was celebrating at Grant Park, at the REAL Obama rally, Tuesday night.

  • Weil, you forgot to mention the Northwestern beezies you were flirting with. Obama CAN bring people together!

  • Touche. But that’s for another place, not this site.

    And I seriously doubt the respondant is actually ‘Matthew W.’ Could think of another blawger you might be, though…

  • no it really is Matthew Weing…I will leave off the rest for privacy reasons…and I heard the info from Greg

  • Gotchya.
    ….so how bout that rally…


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